LET'S GET RID OF NATO...THEY ARE A GROUP OF IDIOTS...TO CONSULT WITH THEM PRIOR WOULD HAVE BEEN A BIG MISTAKE...IRAN WAS A THREAT TO THE WHOLE WORLD ...OUR PRESIDENT, DONALD TRUMP IS THE ONLY PRESIDENT WITH TESTICLES TO TO TAKE THEM ON....HE HAS MADE OUR WORLD SAFER...THANK GOD FOR MR. TRUMP.
Do you understand that Pakistan has had the "Islamic Bomb" for decades, courtesy of "advisors" from North Korea? Do you also understand that if Iran really wanted the bomb, they would have obtained it long before 2026?
No doubt that the Ayatollah was a scumbag. But giving support to going in to "bombs away" the country in February after Trump claimed last July to have "obliterated" everything shows that Trump supporters just aren't very bright.
I actually liked the Israeli "exploding pagers & cell phones" gig they did to Hezbollah. Mossad could have done the same thing in Iran considering how extensive their infiltration is. But Crooked Bibi needs to be a "war time" leader to avoid corruption charges. And Trump was dumb enough to follow along........
NATO has probably outlived its usefulness to the US. And Europe's arrogance toward the US is not new. Conrad Adenauer (Chancellor of West Germany) is reported to have said about its most important ally at the time the US, "they are willing to defend Europe to last dead German."
Let's move on, we have more important issues in other parts of the world.
Agree, but you’ll never convince someone with a zealots loyalty to trump. Iran was no threat to the US. They’re a treat to the grift & extortion of trump from the Middle East disgusting & corrupt monarchy’s. Trump is mafia mascarading as a the emperor of peace. What a complete joke.
Ok, so your opinion is to just allow the thrives with the biggest armies to take what they want from whomever they like? Be careful what you hope for, the pendulum always swings
There’s a familiar pattern here, and it isn’t confined to geopolitics. The louder the declarations, the thinner the underlying structure tends to be. Alliances, like markets, can trade on reputation for a long time… right up until they’re asked to settle in reality.
What’s striking isn’t the rhetoric, it’s the absence of follow-through when it actually matters. The same way a level gives way after being leaned on too many times, credibility works the same way. It holds… until it doesn’t. And when it breaks, it rarely does so politely.
They just need to make babies. The US is walking on the same path as well, but it's pretty hard for Americans to have babies because of your corporate overlords (and other rainbow reasosn). Once you're able to have a baby, you don't need a foreigner.
There is no such thing as too many people. This is something invented by the left and tree huggers "to save the Earth", but you seem a person that have beliefs of the right.
You can't be anti people, anti foreigners, and expect development and economical drive. You need people for that, regardless of who they are. You want new generations to replace the older ones, you need numbers to spend and spin the economical wheel, otherwise you're going to do 9-5 till you're 70, American style.
You might not see it now, but a declining population is a huge problem, and if you can't increase the birth rate, you will have to fill the gaps with foreigners, its as simple as that.
So go ahead do your natural duty in life and have some kids, replace the foreigners with citizens and pay the bill to your American corporate overlords, otherwise keep welcoming foreigners.
You are obviously stuck in a limbo where you are blaming older generations and foreigners for policies that were put by the very people who you defend, a clown president and corporate giants who are milking you under the veil of the great American life.
USA is a major part of NATO. Do you not understand how it works because maybe you should check that out? why didn’t they participate in fixing Trump‘s bullshit move? If you don’t consult your partners ahead of time and they don’t get a chance to put in their input you get what you get. They would’ve all told him it wasn’t a good idea. And that’s why they weren’t consulted so fuck Trump.
The US is NATO, and if Iran had detonated a nuclear weapon, you'd be crying that "Trump had the intelligence and failed to act on it. He has blood on his hands".
The Iranian negotiators told Witkoff they had enough fissile material to make 11 warheads and they would have them in 10 days. They also told him that that material was not negotiable as they were not going to give up what the US could not take militarily. It's totally possible that was a lie but it's also possible they were telling the truth. There was zero evidence that Iran was following the agreement. Don't forget, UN inspectors were not allowed to inspect military bases. That's like telling a cop "you can search my car but stay out of the trunk". If the Iranians only wanted to enrich to the point of using the material for fuel, why were they kept in underground tunnels? It's easy to play Monday morning quarterback and question decisions after the fact.
The European Union, Britain, France, Germany, Russia, China, and the IAEA all attested in 2018 that Iran was following the nuclear agreement. China is particularly relevant given how valuable China considers a more or less peaceful world that allows them to expand economically.
I wouldn't place a lot of stock in the administration's negotiators, Witkoff and Jared. Both are more interested in lining their own pockets. Also, with North Korea helping Pakistan to get the bomb decades ago, Iran could have had the bomb long before 2026. The last point is what the administration chooses to ignore.
Is this supposed to be a cogent argument? 8 years ago the Europeans thought everything was hunky dory? The EU, Britain, France and Germany are not interested in lining their pockets? Guess which two countries you listed sell arms to Iran?
Feel free to keep believing Witkoff and Jared; and even Trump for that matter. But smart people on the right are seeing through the "Wizard's" curtain; like Megyn Kelly, Ann Coulter, Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Normal Americans could have told Trump the same thing; invading Iran wasn't a good idea. Of course, maybe Trump did lie yet again when he said the bombing in summer, 2025 "obliterated" Iran's nuclear program and defenses.
What invasion would that be, Steve? Little premature aren't you, or are you especially privileged like Christina? I would bet your house against the notion of major boots on the ground. All the writhing and seething around Trump and Hegseth et alia is stupid but to be expected coming from the left. The same coming from those who are supposedly on the patriot spectrum is nauseating and detrimental. Splitting MAGA is a false, unworthy and perhaps fatal strategy. You're all going to be proven wrong and I hope the crow is especially bitter. I would not be surprised to find that Nutty Yahoo, whom we all rightly despise, is going to be undone or at least neutralized by the end of the massive rearrangement of geo politics of which neutering Iran is but one piece.
Yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah. Same old nonsensical, non-conservative, far right verbal diarrhea.
If you are truly on the "patriot spectrum," have you given your life savings yet to Mr. Trump's PAC (political action committee)? He can make better use of your money than you can.
Perfect example of what you accuse me of. Blather and as a last ditch non reply, ad hominem. Sorry I wasted my time. Rant on. I will not be tempted to do so again.
Exactly!!! Right on Delores. They don’t want us to interfere and police but want all of the money, protection and security without doing a d*** thing themselves. 🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏
It's simply amazing how wrong Dolores always is, when a little bit of research could have been done.
Here's the % of GDP spent by other NATO nations on defense in 2023 (easily findable on line). 2% is the target: Poland--3.9%. Greece--3.0. Estonia--2.7%. Lithuania--2.5%. Finland--2.5%. Romania--2.4%. Hungary--2.4%. Latvia--2.3%. UK--2.1%. Slovakia--2.0%. Honorable mention at 1.9%: France, Montenegro, North Macedonia.
Hungary can be discounted since Orban is buddy-buddy with Putin. Germany, Italy, Denmark, Netherlands, are lower, but provide fighter planes and ground forces for the Eastern Front.
Poland is the highest contributor because they know Europe won’t have their back. Like Israel in Middle East Poland knows it must defend itself since Europe is useless 🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏
Trump set the bar at 5% and NATO agreed. Too bad they don’t live up to their promises. America voted for Trump policies and he has followed through with his promises. Hard to swallow for TDS libs who prove time and again that they hate America. 🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏
TDS? You mean Trump Did Schoolgirls? Or is it "Trump's Depends Service?" Or maybe "Trump Devotion Syndrome?" You people need new materials. "TDS" is just laughable and reflects poorly on the person using it.
LET'S GET RID OF NATO...THEY ARE A GROUP OF IDIOTS...TO CONSULT WITH THEM PRIOR WOULD HAVE BEEN A BIG MISTAKE...IRAN WAS A THREAT TO THE WHOLE WORLD ...OUR PRESIDENT, DONALD TRUMP IS THE ONLY PRESIDENT WITH TESTICLES TO TO TAKE THEM ON....HE HAS MADE OUR WORLD SAFER...THANK GOD FOR MR. TRUMP.
Do you understand that Pakistan has had the "Islamic Bomb" for decades, courtesy of "advisors" from North Korea? Do you also understand that if Iran really wanted the bomb, they would have obtained it long before 2026?
No doubt that the Ayatollah was a scumbag. But giving support to going in to "bombs away" the country in February after Trump claimed last July to have "obliterated" everything shows that Trump supporters just aren't very bright.
I actually liked the Israeli "exploding pagers & cell phones" gig they did to Hezbollah. Mossad could have done the same thing in Iran considering how extensive their infiltration is. But Crooked Bibi needs to be a "war time" leader to avoid corruption charges. And Trump was dumb enough to follow along........
NATO has probably outlived its usefulness to the US. And Europe's arrogance toward the US is not new. Conrad Adenauer (Chancellor of West Germany) is reported to have said about its most important ally at the time the US, "they are willing to defend Europe to last dead German."
Let's move on, we have more important issues in other parts of the world.
Europeans today are the good guys. Spain leading the way. Your WARS are not ours. You’ve made your bed…Unfollow this stack. Quickly
Agree, but you’ll never convince someone with a zealots loyalty to trump. Iran was no threat to the US. They’re a treat to the grift & extortion of trump from the Middle East disgusting & corrupt monarchy’s. Trump is mafia mascarading as a the emperor of peace. What a complete joke.
Karl, I’m Muslim and anytime you want to meet up for a chat let me know. Cnt
Jealous?
If you're so disgusted, when are you enlisting?
Oh, so a chicken hawk, posting from the safe haven of your home.... Sure thing, citizen.
Yes!
Nato needs to drop a pair and man up
Their future as a semi free society vs a Putin regime is in their hands to decide — meantime let them go get their oil
Ok, so your opinion is to just allow the thrives with the biggest armies to take what they want from whomever they like? Be careful what you hope for, the pendulum always swings
There’s a familiar pattern here, and it isn’t confined to geopolitics. The louder the declarations, the thinner the underlying structure tends to be. Alliances, like markets, can trade on reputation for a long time… right up until they’re asked to settle in reality.
What’s striking isn’t the rhetoric, it’s the absence of follow-through when it actually matters. The same way a level gives way after being leaned on too many times, credibility works the same way. It holds… until it doesn’t. And when it breaks, it rarely does so politely.
If US abandons EU, the EU will just start leaning towards China, as simple as that.
They just need to make babies. The US is walking on the same path as well, but it's pretty hard for Americans to have babies because of your corporate overlords (and other rainbow reasosn). Once you're able to have a baby, you don't need a foreigner.
There is no such thing as too many people. This is something invented by the left and tree huggers "to save the Earth", but you seem a person that have beliefs of the right.
You can't be anti people, anti foreigners, and expect development and economical drive. You need people for that, regardless of who they are. You want new generations to replace the older ones, you need numbers to spend and spin the economical wheel, otherwise you're going to do 9-5 till you're 70, American style.
You might not see it now, but a declining population is a huge problem, and if you can't increase the birth rate, you will have to fill the gaps with foreigners, its as simple as that.
So go ahead do your natural duty in life and have some kids, replace the foreigners with citizens and pay the bill to your American corporate overlords, otherwise keep welcoming foreigners.
You are obviously stuck in a limbo where you are blaming older generations and foreigners for policies that were put by the very people who you defend, a clown president and corporate giants who are milking you under the veil of the great American life.
USA is a major part of NATO. Do you not understand how it works because maybe you should check that out? why didn’t they participate in fixing Trump‘s bullshit move? If you don’t consult your partners ahead of time and they don’t get a chance to put in their input you get what you get. They would’ve all told him it wasn’t a good idea. And that’s why they weren’t consulted so fuck Trump.
The US is NATO, and if Iran had detonated a nuclear weapon, you'd be crying that "Trump had the intelligence and failed to act on it. He has blood on his hands".
Where will Iran have "obtained" a nuclear weapon? They were following the agreement they made, the one that Trump lied about and then tore up in 2018.
The Iranian negotiators told Witkoff they had enough fissile material to make 11 warheads and they would have them in 10 days. They also told him that that material was not negotiable as they were not going to give up what the US could not take militarily. It's totally possible that was a lie but it's also possible they were telling the truth. There was zero evidence that Iran was following the agreement. Don't forget, UN inspectors were not allowed to inspect military bases. That's like telling a cop "you can search my car but stay out of the trunk". If the Iranians only wanted to enrich to the point of using the material for fuel, why were they kept in underground tunnels? It's easy to play Monday morning quarterback and question decisions after the fact.
The European Union, Britain, France, Germany, Russia, China, and the IAEA all attested in 2018 that Iran was following the nuclear agreement. China is particularly relevant given how valuable China considers a more or less peaceful world that allows them to expand economically.
I wouldn't place a lot of stock in the administration's negotiators, Witkoff and Jared. Both are more interested in lining their own pockets. Also, with North Korea helping Pakistan to get the bomb decades ago, Iran could have had the bomb long before 2026. The last point is what the administration chooses to ignore.
Is this supposed to be a cogent argument? 8 years ago the Europeans thought everything was hunky dory? The EU, Britain, France and Germany are not interested in lining their pockets? Guess which two countries you listed sell arms to Iran?
Feel free to keep believing Witkoff and Jared; and even Trump for that matter. But smart people on the right are seeing through the "Wizard's" curtain; like Megyn Kelly, Ann Coulter, Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Check several of your privilege cards, Christina... Make your retard card first in the list.
Normal Americans could have told Trump the same thing; invading Iran wasn't a good idea. Of course, maybe Trump did lie yet again when he said the bombing in summer, 2025 "obliterated" Iran's nuclear program and defenses.
What invasion would that be, Steve? Little premature aren't you, or are you especially privileged like Christina? I would bet your house against the notion of major boots on the ground. All the writhing and seething around Trump and Hegseth et alia is stupid but to be expected coming from the left. The same coming from those who are supposedly on the patriot spectrum is nauseating and detrimental. Splitting MAGA is a false, unworthy and perhaps fatal strategy. You're all going to be proven wrong and I hope the crow is especially bitter. I would not be surprised to find that Nutty Yahoo, whom we all rightly despise, is going to be undone or at least neutralized by the end of the massive rearrangement of geo politics of which neutering Iran is but one piece.
Yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah. Same old nonsensical, non-conservative, far right verbal diarrhea.
If you are truly on the "patriot spectrum," have you given your life savings yet to Mr. Trump's PAC (political action committee)? He can make better use of your money than you can.
Perfect example of what you accuse me of. Blather and as a last ditch non reply, ad hominem. Sorry I wasted my time. Rant on. I will not be tempted to do so again.
LOL. A little "whine" with dinner, Comrade?
Have you ever been to Europe?
They were supposed to pay their fair share, but never did. They figured the US would
take care of all of it. Ha. Now they will have to pay for be cut out of NATO. I'm so sick
of these other countries not paying their fair share.
Exactly!!! Right on Delores. They don’t want us to interfere and police but want all of the money, protection and security without doing a d*** thing themselves. 🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏
It's simply amazing how wrong Dolores always is, when a little bit of research could have been done.
Here's the % of GDP spent by other NATO nations on defense in 2023 (easily findable on line). 2% is the target: Poland--3.9%. Greece--3.0. Estonia--2.7%. Lithuania--2.5%. Finland--2.5%. Romania--2.4%. Hungary--2.4%. Latvia--2.3%. UK--2.1%. Slovakia--2.0%. Honorable mention at 1.9%: France, Montenegro, North Macedonia.
Hungary can be discounted since Orban is buddy-buddy with Putin. Germany, Italy, Denmark, Netherlands, are lower, but provide fighter planes and ground forces for the Eastern Front.
Poland is the highest contributor because they know Europe won’t have their back. Like Israel in Middle East Poland knows it must defend itself since Europe is useless 🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏
5% is what they are supposed to contribute. Only Poland is close.
🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏
Trump may have said 5%. But he says many things. The US itself has not been at 5%.
Moving the goalpost. You raved about “maybe 2%” Where is the 5? Which is it Stevie?
Trump set the bar at 5% and NATO agreed. Too bad they don’t live up to their promises. America voted for Trump policies and he has followed through with his promises. Hard to swallow for TDS libs who prove time and again that they hate America. 🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏
TDS? You mean Trump Did Schoolgirls? Or is it "Trump's Depends Service?" Or maybe "Trump Devotion Syndrome?" You people need new materials. "TDS" is just laughable and reflects poorly on the person using it.
Time to let them know. The free ride is over
The same with lots of love from the rest of the world. Temu Emperor Palpatine will never win